tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9174025374821038087.post4585456172676362814..comments2024-01-29T17:51:55.608+00:00Comments on Nige's Diet & Nutrition Blog: Vitamin DNigel Kinbrumhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03368973941328529619noreply@blogger.comBlogger20125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9174025374821038087.post-43754083353404030342013-08-07T07:47:21.145+01:002013-08-07T07:47:21.145+01:00Hi ,
Thank you for the information. I think it...Hi ,<br /><br />Thank you for the information. I think it’s probably overkill on my part, but who knows<br /><br /> for sure anyway. Good and Natural Vitamins thing for us. Thanks again and best wishes!<br /><br />for more info visit : http://trapezepart.com/ROHITnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9174025374821038087.post-75802713628875364772010-12-14T14:40:21.620+00:002010-12-14T14:40:21.620+00:00Hello again Henry (now V2.0)
I'm sorry to hea...Hello again Henry (now V2.0)<br /><br />I'm sorry to hear that you've been having a hard time and I hope that you manage to resolve your health problems. Vitamin D3 Stoss therapy is quite effective. My 25(OH)D level is near the top end of the RR so I don't need to take a Stoss dose to bump it up.<br /><br />Cheers, Nige.Nigel Kinbrumhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03368973941328529619noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9174025374821038087.post-70582800091870684602010-12-14T14:22:32.371+00:002010-12-14T14:22:32.371+00:00Been practising for 16 years. Now retired due to ...Been practising for 16 years. Now retired due to ill health. Been researching my own health (physician heal thyself) for last 3 years and have made a lot of enemies by promoting the Vitamin D3. First off wanted to lose weight, the eat low fat diet didnt seem to work, and I despaired, went low carb and that research by me on a personal level took me to the paleo diet and the Vitamin D<br /><br />I recently got rid of a nasty cough with green sputum with hi dose Vitamin D3 One of my doctor friends who was also bashed by the GMC sent me some cholecalciferol concentrate 1g=50000iu Took about 400000 for three or four days and then about 200000 for a few days after that.<br /><br />Gone Didnt need antibiotics,<br /><br />Sorry about the length of time to respond. Its been a hard year.Henry North London 2.0https://www.blogger.com/profile/14748991488145468593noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9174025374821038087.post-44721400215460348312010-12-14T12:32:39.933+00:002010-12-14T12:32:39.933+00:00Hi Anonymous2
I guess you didn't see what I d...Hi Anonymous2<br /><br />I guess you didn't see what I did in my comment immediately above yours. Sunshine doesn't contain Vitamin D. However, the UVB in sunshine that's strong enough synthesises Vitamin D in the skin. This then enters the blood. Therefore, your "natural" Vitamin D is just as synthetic as the stuff extracted from sheep's lanolin, where <b><i>exactly the same process occurs</i></b>. That's the form I use. The only difference is that oral Vitamin D is absorbed through the lining of the gut to get into the blood. Yes, oral Vitamin D <b>can</b> be overdosed unlike sun-derived Vitamin D. However, oral Vitamin D doesn't age the skin or raise the risk for simple skin cancers.<br /><br />Your evidence that the body doesn't need much Vitamin D for proper function is <b><i>what</i></b> exactly? Why should I believe you instead of all of the peer-reviewed studies showing that 600iu/day isn't enough to alleviate a lot of common health problems?<br /><br />All fat-soluble vitamins (also B12) are stored. The level in the body increases until equilibrium is reached where the rate of usage by the body equals the rate of intake.<br /><br />Make your mind up. Is "synthetic" Vitamin D urinated out or is it accumulated?<br /><br />Cheers, Nige.Nigel Kinbrumhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03368973941328529619noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9174025374821038087.post-39808042308126933732010-12-14T06:59:49.158+00:002010-12-14T06:59:49.158+00:00Vitamin D from the sun and natural food sources is...Vitamin D from the sun and natural food sources is regulated by the body so that you cant overdose on It.The body doesnt require much natural Vitamin D for proper function.Synthetic vitamin D taken in pill or gelcap form is not regulated by the body.Most of it is urinated out and the body tries to store the rest in fat tissue.The body does not recognize it as a natural substance and tries to get rid of it.Thats why you have to take so much of it to even show up in the bloodstream.Not a good Idea! it will bioacumulate in the fat tissue and possibly give you problems in the future.Im gonna stick to real naturals.<br /><br />CheersAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9174025374821038087.post-64394352964298832922010-12-09T13:13:24.438+00:002010-12-09T13:13:24.438+00:00Hi anonymous.
I agree. That's why I only reco...Hi anonymous.<br /><br />I agree. That's why I only recommend & take cholecalciferol (D3) which is what's in food and also what's <b><i>synthesised</i></b> (see what I did there?) by the action of UVB on 7-dehydrocholesterol in our skin (also in sheep's lanolin, which is what commercial non-vegetarian D3 is extracted from).<br /><br />Cheers, Nige.Nigel Kinbrumhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03368973941328529619noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9174025374821038087.post-55152838578137850352010-12-09T06:23:50.442+00:002010-12-09T06:23:50.442+00:00Synthetic vitamins are never a good choice.Nothing...Synthetic vitamins are never a good choice.Nothing beats mother nature.Plain and simple!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9174025374821038087.post-82067966135307256402010-01-06T11:22:30.178+00:002010-01-06T11:22:30.178+00:00Hi Henry. Sorry it took so long to moderate your p...Hi Henry. Sorry it took so long to moderate your post but I had a lie-in this morning!<br /><br />I see from your profile that you're a Doctor. How long have you been practising? I find it somewhat amusing when I talk to Health Professionals (my GP & Endocrinologist) and I find that I, a retired Electronic Engineer, know more about cell biochemistry & metabolism than they do! My cousin works in cancer research. I told her about methylglyoxal. She asked me how it worked. I told her that it inhibited glycolysis in cancer cells. She said "What's glycolysis?" I replied "Read my blog!"<br /><br />It was <a href="http://www.blogger.com/profile/13140097526458431747" rel="nofollow">Ted Hutchinson</a> who got me interested in Vitamin D3 back in 2007. So, thank you Ted.<br /><br />Cheers, Nige.Nigel Kinbrumhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03368973941328529619noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9174025374821038087.post-51324145633056225852010-01-06T07:39:01.228+00:002010-01-06T07:39:01.228+00:00Finally Someone else who has recognised this... ...Finally Someone else who has recognised this... <br /><br />I was derided by my medical colleagues as being completely mad when I suggested that Vitamin D was necessary<br /><br />I have bookmarked this page and will be getting all those studies down<br /><br />Thanks very much. <br /><br />Will help amazingly in my next interview.... Cant wait to see the look on their faces...Henry North London 2.0https://www.blogger.com/profile/14748991488145468593noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9174025374821038087.post-47836773804812629362009-05-04T15:51:00.000+01:002009-05-04T15:51:00.000+01:00It seems you where way ahead with your supplementa...It seems you where way ahead with your supplementation and Sunbed UVB exposure. See http://products.mercola.com/tanning-bed/?aid=CD353 for more info.<br />I tried to recreate this sunbed using Special Medical treatment lamps but they are only available upon recommendation if you have psoreasis are other severe skin conditions. I was wondering how you managed top make yours ?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9174025374821038087.post-15584452134594154992009-02-05T14:38:00.000+00:002009-02-05T14:38:00.000+00:00So 8p a day is a waste of money? I wonder how much...So 8p a day is a waste of money? I wonder how much money is spent on drugs prescribed to treat the <B>symptoms</B> of Vitamin D deficiency?<BR/><BR/>Your GP is ignorant. You could point him in the direction of my Blog. If he chooses to not read it, he is also apathetic and bone-idle!Nigel Kinbrumhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03368973941328529619noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9174025374821038087.post-76617097442037283312009-01-29T10:32:00.000+00:002009-01-29T10:32:00.000+00:00Just had a debate about 30 mins ago with the GP ab...Just had a debate about 30 mins ago with the GP about D3. Shockingly told it was a waste of money and that I should just be outside more and not wear a Muslim headscarf? WTF?Rossohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13516743883476727561noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9174025374821038087.post-21276934492832245212009-01-28T23:12:00.000+00:002009-01-28T23:12:00.000+00:00I've slightly duplicated what Ted wrote.There's a ...I've slightly duplicated what Ted wrote.<BR/><BR/>There's a lecture on Vitamin D by Michael Holick at <A HREF="http://www.uvadvantage.org/portals/0/pres/" REL="nofollow">http://www.uvadvantage.org/portals/0/pres/</A><BR/><BR/>It's a good lecture, but there are 2 problems with it, so I won't put it in the Vitamin D Blog.<BR/><BR/>1) If you stop it, you have to re-start from the beginning.<BR/><BR/>2) It opens a large number of tabs, one for each slide.Nigel Kinbrumhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03368973941328529619noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9174025374821038087.post-73709117777363128332009-01-28T23:03:00.000+00:002009-01-28T23:03:00.000+00:00I've only just noticed this comment! Thanks to Ted...I've only just noticed this comment! Thanks to Ted for stepping in in my absence.<BR/><BR/>A couple of questions if I may:-<BR/>1)Is the doseage of 5000iu a day applicable to everyone? <B>Yes.</B><BR/><BR/>2) Does the supplementaion need to be stopped or lowered during times of sunshine? (although living in the UK I guess that would be rare :-).<B>You can if you get enough suitable sun exposure. As it only costs me 8p for 5,000iu, I take 5,000iu/day whether or not I get any sun exposure.</B><BR/> <BR/>3) Is this supplementation something to continue for the rest of my life? <B>If you don't get enough sun exposure for the rest of your life, then yes.</B><BR/><BR/>You can get 5,000iu caps from <A HREF="https://secure.bio-tech-pharm.com/detail.aspx?product_id=18&cat_id=2&subcat_id=0" REL="nofollow">Bio-tech Pharmacal.</A><BR/><BR/>As the £ is weak against the $, 2 pots now costs ~£20 so you <B>may</B> get stung for £3 VAT + £8 Royal Mail handling. :-(Nigel Kinbrumhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03368973941328529619noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9174025374821038087.post-38677763046143244332009-01-28T21:17:00.000+00:002009-01-28T21:17:00.000+00:00Vitamin D: Requirements for Optimal Health William...Vitamin D: Requirements for Optimal Health William B. Grant, <BR/>http://www.slideshare.net/7260678/vitamin-d-slf<BR/>this slide presentation gives a good summary of the situation regarding Vitamin D as it was in 2004. In Vitamin D history that means even people like Grant, will have had to change their opinions given the latest research, but it summarises what Nige has already stated in his excellent blog on the topic.TedHutchinsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13140097526458431747noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9174025374821038087.post-23288399824812402012009-01-28T19:31:00.000+00:002009-01-28T19:31:00.000+00:00I meant to explain where to get your 5000iu Cholec...I meant to explain where to get your 5000iu Cholecalciferol Vit d3.<BR/><BR/>I use these https://secure.bio-tech-pharm.com/detail.aspx?product_id=18&cat_id=2&subcat_id=0<BR/>From Bio~tech. I take one with my cooked breakfast.<BR/><BR/>Dr Davis of the Heartscanblog prefers D3 dissolved in oil so he recommends these Carlson 2000iu<BR/>http://www.iherb.com/ProductDetails.aspx?pid=7255860309350762561&at=0<BR/>To average 5000iu take one on odd days of the week and 2 on even days. In fact there is little difference between weekly /daily supplementation so if you want to take 17/18 in one go once a week that's only going to be a problem for breast feeding or pregnant ladies in which case they should supplement daily. Everyone else it doesn't really matter. <BR/><BR/>If you hate ordering from the USA you may want to use <BR/>http://www.thevitaminservice.com/product_detail.asp?id=1009173<BR/>The vitamin Service.<BR/>I've not use them myself but I have been told they are fine. Again you would need to alternate 2/3 drops or take 5 drops every other day. <BR/><BR/>I haven't used these yet but Now foods 5000iu may make life easier for some<BR/>http://www.iherb.com/ProductDetails.aspx?pid=7278141827322434885&at=0<BR/><BR/>If you are totally useless at remembering to take daily supplements then these 50,000iu <BR/>https://secure.bio-tech-pharm.com/detail.aspx?product_id=20&cat_id=2&subcat_id=0<BR/>would be useful. One every 10 days=5000iu/d.<BR/>Just recently I've upped my intake to 7000iu and so I use one of these each week. <BR/><BR/>In case anyone is wondering the problem with USA orders is the customs duty on entry for orders £18 or more. With the £ down against the $ is brought the danger level down. It wouldn't be so bad if it were just the tax but carriers and the Post Office charge £8 or more just to collect the £4 tax which seems unfair. <BR/><BR/>That's one reason I like IHERB if you use a discount code like WAB666 you earn a $5 discount and that reduces your order value so you may avoid the tax. You'll get your own $5 discount code then an if you pass it round to your mates/relatives etc you get further discounts off your next order so you can perpetuate the discount. I know it's just a trivial amount but using any legal dodge to avoid paying tax pleases me.TedHutchinsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13140097526458431747noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9174025374821038087.post-35252972433171341802009-01-28T19:14:00.000+00:002009-01-28T19:14:00.000+00:001)Is the doseage of 5000iu a day applicable to eve...1)Is the doseage of 5000iu a day applicable to everyone or are there exceptions<BR/><BR/>Dr Davis of the Heartscanblog<BR/>http://heartscanblog.blogspot.com/2009/01/why-rda-for-vitamin-d.html<BR/>finds that at Latitude 42 Wisconsin, where not only do they enjoy more hours sunshine daily, more sunny days annually but also have easier access to vitamin d fortified milk/cereals, that it takes 5000iu/daily for women and 6000iu/daily for men to maintain a blood level in the desirable range. (60-70 ng/ml 150~175nmol/l.) <BR/>Without a 25(OH)D test it is impossible to predict how your individual body responds to D3 supplementation. <BR/>You may sign up here http://www.grassrootshealth.org/daction/index.php for a 25(OH)D test every six months for £20ish for the next 5 yrs. Ideally you need to supplement at 5000iu/d for 3 months then test. Then correct intake by 100iu/d for each 1ng or 2.5nmol/l required adjustment. If I were a betting man I would predict that most UK readers will require around 2000iu/d more than Dr Davis suggests between October~March but will be fine with 5000iu/f 6000iu/m from March~September providing they get out in the sun whenever possible. <BR/><BR/>2) Does the supplementaion need to be stopped or lowered during times of sunshine (although living in the UK I guess that would be rare :-).<BR/><BR/>NO the production of D3 near the surface of the skin is selflimiting that means if your body doesn't need it then it stays near the surface and is processed on into supra sterols your system doesn't use. Remember also that Vit D3 is biologically inert. On it's own it's useless. It has to go through 2 further hydrolations to become an active substance Calcitriol and what is even more clever is that at the second hydrolation for each active molecule a matching neutralising molecule is also formed so there are checks and balances throughout the process. You have to work very hard to get Vitamin d toxicity. <BR/><BR/>3) Is this supplementation something to continue for the rest of my life?<BR/>YES. Either that or you can move to somewhere where you can sunbathe nude daily at midday with the possibility of getting sunburnt. Though a quarter of the time needed to get sunburnt is all that is required for Vitamin D synthesis. <BR/>Be warned though. By the time your skin burns there is absolutely NO VITAMIN D LEFT whatsoever near the surface of your skin to repair that damage. That is why sunburn leads to more cancer but regular nonburning sun exposure reduces incidence of 17 different cancers including the breast, colon prostate.TedHutchinsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13140097526458431747noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9174025374821038087.post-68644141894761358222009-01-25T20:00:00.000+00:002009-01-25T20:00:00.000+00:00Hi Nige,Thanks for the info.I'm 43 and over the pa...Hi Nige,<BR/><BR/>Thanks for the info.<BR/><BR/>I'm 43 and over the past few months have noticed a reduction in my cognition (forgetting easy to remember facts, finding it hard to search for a word to complete a sentence). At first I just put it down to tiredness and age. I am also worried as my dad was diagnosed with pre-senile dementia in his mid-late 40's and died a few years later - in my dark hours I wonder if what I'm going through could be connected.<BR/><BR/>A couple of questions if I may:-<BR/>1)Is the doseage of 5000iu a day applicable to everyone or are there exceptions<BR/>2) Does the supplementaion need to be stopped or lowered during times of sunshine (although living in the UK I guess that would be rare :-).<BR/>3) Is this supplementation something to continue for the rest of my life?<BR/><BR/>Many ThanksUnknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00293130503112925384noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9174025374821038087.post-71647633914772403642008-12-23T10:41:00.000+00:002008-12-23T10:41:00.000+00:00Thanks for the thumbs-up! My mum calls the 5000iu ...Thanks for the thumbs-up! <BR/><BR/>My mum calls the 5000iu caps her "happy pills". She used to be a major sun-worshipper, but completely stopped sunbathing when she turned 75-ish. She started showing signs of dementia when she was 77. She'll be 79 in a couple of weeks time. <BR/><BR/>In the last week, her mental faculties have noticeably improved, so I'm doubling the amount of smoked salmon that she eats from 150g/week to 300g/week to see if the increase from 100g/week to 150g/week a few weeks ago was the cause. <BR/><BR/>Thanks for your comments.Nigel Kinbrumhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03368973941328529619noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9174025374821038087.post-3610135819024677992008-12-23T04:50:00.000+00:002008-12-23T04:50:00.000+00:00Great post! It is nice to have all of this info i...Great post! It is nice to have all of this info in one place. This also shows that the impact of vitamin D deficiency is also related to chronic inflammation, since the symptoms are the same. It is fascinating that vitamin D deficiency can result in back problems that are similar to those caused by the gluten triggered autoimmune coeliac.Dr. Art Ayershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01727664149735013259noreply@blogger.com