Thursday, 25 September 2014

ItsTheWoo, Me, and Sheeple.

This post is about http://itsthewooo.blogspot.co.uk/2014/09/so-i-had-to-ban-nigel.html
From http://campvolant.com/2013/11/11/be-that-man-travail-en-cours/ I am "That man", where diet & nutrition is concerned.

My cunning plan worked! I needed an excuse to never have to visit that cluster-f*ck of a blog ever again, so I gradually increased the level of (well-deserved, may I add) snark & insults, in response to ItsTheWoo's insults to me, and misrepresentations about me, until she did what I wanted - i.e. banned me forever. Thank you!

In http://nigeepoo.blogspot.com/2014/08/dear-itsthewoo-how-do-you-do.html, I rebutted & debunked ItsTheWoo's strawman fallacies about me. I thought that she was merely ignorant of me, so I sent her a Friend Request on Facebook, which she accepted. I thought that if she knew more about me, she wouldn't use so many strawman fallacies.

Well, that was a complete waste of time! I took the opportunity to get to know her better, and what did I learn? She appears to be completely self-obsessed, and is mainly concerned with being as popular as possible, with as many followers as possible. To achieve this requires her to be constantly zany & "off the wall", with regular melt-downs to keep the troops entertained. She also likes nail varnish!

I don't actually have anything against her, other than her constant misrepresentations about me, which she's taken to an entirely new level in her latest melt-down.

After asking her pertinent questions in a friendly way, I ascertained that she was probably urinating excessive amounts of magnesium. See Magnesium and the Brain: The Original Chill Pill.
"Finally, magnesium is sequestered and wasted via the urine in times of stress."
This can create a vicious circle, whereby magnesium deficiency increases anxiety, which further increases stress. ItsTheWoo was complaining that dietary protein was making her too "wired", so I suggested that she increase her magnesium intake, and collect 24 hours of urine for analysis. I didn't even ask her to stick a needle in her arm for a blood test (as serum magnesium means nothing).

You'd think that I'd asked her to sell her mother from the way she carried on, making excuse after excuse to not wee into a 5 Litre container. I'm done with her, now. She obviously isn't interested in finding out the underlying reason why she has to eat a ketogenic diet all the time. She admitted that she's spent 12 years on a ketogenic diet, going from one supplement to the next, when tolerance develops. She's even tried Lithium. She's currently faffing about with a supplement called Kratom.

I'm sticking to Epsom Salts. It's cheap, it works and if you do overdose on it, you get a good run for your money! :-D As magnesium is a substance found naturally in the body, tolerance never develops.

The "Sheeple" part of the title is referring to ItsTheWoo's followers, who are no doubt slagging me off. Number of f*cks given = 0. It's interesting how she's built up a large following of mostly feeble-minded people who can't think for themselves, and who praise her for every post she writes, no matter how incorrect it might be.

I don't blog to be popular. I blog to help people, with accurate & up-to-date information about ways to treat nasty medical conditions that impair people's lives.

Hopefully, my next post will be back to business as usual. There's something big coming, and this time it's got nothing to do with Gluten or A1 Casein!

EDIT: As a result of the 191(!) comments to this post, here are some thought experiments in logic:-

Q1. If Woo's followers don't give a f*ck about me, why post about banning me?
A1. Because Woo is an attention-whore.

Q2. Woo could have shut me up by saying that she'd already had a 24-hour urine test for excessive Mg excretion. She didn't. Why?
A2. Because in 12 years of suffering mental issues, she's never had a had a 24-hour urine test for excessive Mg excretion.

Q3. Woo could have shut me up and shown that she's right and I'm wrong, by taking a 24-hour urine test for excessive Mg excretion. She didn't. Why?
A3. Because she knows that she's wrong and I'm right, because a 24-hour urine test for excessive Mg excretion would show excessive Mg excretion.

Q4. Why does Woo insist that a 24-hour urine test for excessive Mg excretion is worthless (it isn't)?
A4. Because EITHER she's worried that she'll lose her "shtick" of nuttiness and will lose followers (in which case, she's playing you all for fools and should be avoided), OR she's scared of change, due to mental illness (in which case, she's to be pitied and should be avoided).

Please discuss the above statements without deflecting onto irrelevancies e.g. my Aspergic tendencies. Yes, I admit that I have Aspergic tendencies. I've also admitted to being a nerd (click Nerds). So shoot me ;-)

Blindly following someone & believing everything that they say without ever verifying facts is dangerous, and can lead to the situation depicted in the picture at the top of this post (Godwin's Law alert). The opposite (total cynicism) is also unhealthy.

People need to do research of their own, or just read my blog, as I've already done loads of research. If your health problem isn't mentioned anywhere in my blog (check the labels first), please email me (there's a disguised email link in my "About me" section) and ask. I love doing research, as I never know what I'm going to discover, and I occasionally stumble across something really important by accident, as my recent posts on Constipation/IHD/Type 1 Diabetes/Schizophrenia/Autism, Hyperinsulinaemia, Age-related Macular Degeneration, Rheumatoid Arthritis & Calcium Shift have shown.

If I've been of help to you, please tell any family members or friends who are suffering from any conditions that are impairing their life. My suggestions must always be checked by someone's GP first, in case of contraindications with other medical conditions or medications that I don't know about. My suggestions must always be used as adjuncts to, NOT replacements for, someone's existing medication(s).

If symptoms improve, people should negotiate with their GP for a reduction in the dose of their medication(s), if their medication(s) has/have undesirable effects (e.g. bad side-effects, or a need for further medications such as PPI's like Omeprazole to reduce stomach acidity when taking NSAID's like Aspirin or Naproxen).

189 comments:

StellaBarbone said...

I saw you got banned, i just read her site for amusement. She's just crackers. I followed another link from your blogroll, but the blogge was suffering from such bad anxiety disorder that it made me uncomfortable. Wooo on the other hand is so egotistical that it's hard to develop any empathy.

Nigel Kinbrum said...

Lemme guess...My Broken Metabolism?

John Smith said...

If you do a little research into borderline personality disorder you will understand her better, she really can't help herself and there is no easy treatment it, so she's one long train wreck. Because she isn't a threat to herself or to others there is no way for her family to force her to get medical assistance right now, maybe when she hits bottom.


She is also bipolar but that's less of a problem.

carbsane said...

If she is indeed an employed RN, then she can "help herself" when the situation arises enough to remain employed. Ditto the bipolar.


My only reason for caring about her rants against me are similar to Nigel's: I'm tired of being misrepresented.

Nigel Kinbrum said...

You can take a horse to water, but you can't make it drink. I advised her about a probable deficiency, but everyone's free to take my advice or leave it.

The above post is to put my side of the story, as Woo has a habit of making shit up.

John Smith said...

People with BPD are very cagey and manipulative, they can present themselves as normal for considerable periods of time.


She has without question defamed people through her Twitter account including accusations of sexual crimes involving minors but chances are she is legally incompetent and cannot be held liable for her actions.

carbsane said...

Hmmm ... if she can't be legally held responsible for her actions, then she shouldn't be employed in the capacity of delivering medical care to others -- especially those who are often mentally incompetent for other reasons (nursing home patients with dementia) and rely on nurses to provide proper care and medications.

John Smith said...

She doesn't realize it but she has been depending on the kindness of strangers, imo only thing that has saved her so far is pity.

weilasmith said...

"You can take a horse to water, but you can't make it drink. I advised her about a probable deficiency, but everyone's free to take my advice or leave it."
Exactly right. that's how i feel, and it gives me peace to know that the above is true. but why is it that you know the above is true but you have a stronger emotional reaction than me? why purposely insult someone to the point of banned if you understand the above to be true? it seems illogical. i do understand wanting to be banned and actively working to get banned. i was in a way addicted to the drama of richard nickoley's blog and i knew it was such a waste of time to always go over there, but i couldn't stop myself. so i crossed the line with him and he banned me. but it was temporary. but long enough to extricate me from a bad habit.


what brand of K2 do you take and did you notice any immediate effect from it?

weilasmith said...

she no bipole and no borderline. why u think otherwise- you diagnose?

weilasmith said...

ur just making up stories in your head. it is fun to do, if you are aware of it.

Nigel Kinbrum said...

Every time someone replies to a comment on Disqus, I get a notification. I was getting fed-up of showing notifications for replies to comments on Woo's blog. I had to insult her worse & worse, as that's the only way I could get her to ban me. I hope that Disqus is clever enough to not show me notifications for comments left on a blog where I'm banned from leaving comments. I haven't received any notifications recently, so I'm hoping that's the case.

Jaz Wolf de-friended me on Facebook, lol. I wonder whether she thought my "most commenters there are feeble-minded etc" remark was aimed at her. I'm a bit worried that some commenters there have drunk so much Woo "Kool-aid" that they'll actually try some of the insane stuff that Woo writes.

Do I need to remind people that Woo has spent 12 years, FAILING to fix her mental issues? I fixed my own osteoporosis and insulin resistance, two conditions that my Endocrinologist thought were impossible to fix, especially when I wasn't taking any medications for them!

RE Vitamin K2: I was taking 1/day of http://www.vitacost.com/Vitacost-Ultra-Vitamin-K-with-Advanced-K2-Complex

I then discovered that credit on iHerb.com has an expiry date and that a lot of credit earned (from the use of the NIG935 discount code) had already expired! Doh!

I'm now taking 1/day of http://www.iherb.com/Carlson-Labs-Vitamin-K2-5-mg-60-Capsules/6116 , and 1/day of http://www.iherb.com/Healthy-Origins-Vitamin-D3-5-000-IU-360-Softgels/18335

"• You currently have
$91.90 in “Available” credit." Yay!
"• You currently have $7.22 in “Pending” credit." Double-yay! :-D

Nigel Kinbrum said...

What's to be done - if anything? Does someone have to tip-off the authorities about Woo's blog & Twitter feed? I don't know how things work, over there.

carbsane said...

Weilasmith ... are you v/vmary?

Galina L. said...

There is a "subscribe" box on the low left corner of a Disqus blog post, if you click on it, you should be able to unsubscribe yourself without creating any drama with insults, going on a facebook, writing a special blog-post,and so forth.

According to a google search, Disqus allows users to be unsubscribed from comments -https://help.disqus.com/customer/portal/articles/927802-subscribe-unsubscribe-from-notifications

Galina L. said...

According to some comments, if I remember correctly, he is a male, unlike v/vmary.

John Smith said...

If I am inventing bipolar and BPD then Woo must be inventing them too, because the only reason I am even aware of the disorders is that Woo has mentioned them several hundred times on her highly personal Twitter feed. I do not suffer from them myself and have no one in my personal life who suffers from them.


The question to ask is "Why is Woo fixated on bipolar and BPD in her Twitter feed?"

The probable answer is "Because she is aware that she suffers from those particular psychiatric disorders"

Nigel Kinbrum said...

That box is for email notifications. I don't subscribe to any email notifications.

I'm referring to the speech bubble that goes red with a number in it showing how many unread replies there are.

Galina L. said...

I receive emails only, so I was unaware about another form of notification.
I guess, you could just request to be banned instead of creating a conflict. Some people are better to be apart.

Nigel Kinbrum said...

You don't remember correctly. Weilasmith is female. I'm 100% certain about that.

carbsane said...

The problem here is that you have multiple jurisdictions to tak your case to. If her real name was known, then one could go to the licensing boards and let them take it from there (that is if they'd be interested in a complaint not coming from a patient/family/etc.) Jack Kruse still practices medicine :/ Without a name, you have to go to law enforcement where the threshold is pretty high with internet shenanigans.


The third option is private investigation and/or lawsuit. Which if you mention it folks will accuse you of threats, but so be it. I've thought for a long time that Wooo has an internet personality death wish -- as in she wants to be found out. It would seem to explain her increasingly reckless public admissions. It's a matter of it being worth the time and expense.


For now I'd just tell anyone you know in NJ to keep a lookout for her face if they or a loved one are ever in need of medical attention in that state.

Galina L. said...

Yes, with nicknames it could be easier to get mistaken.

Nigel Kinbrum said...

Ask to be banned? That's rather unusual.

Woo was insulting me, so it's only natural for me to insult her back!

weilasmith said...

yes. my screen names are all messed up.

weilasmith said...

no. she calls it 'faux' polar. and she jokes around that she has BPD. i know cuz i was thinking she had it too cuz she always mentioned she was BPD. but it is her way of relieving stress.

weilasmith said...

based on my mom's experience in the hospital, i could do a lot worse than have wooo as a nurse.

weilasmith said...

plz see my above explanation regarding wooo joking around.

Galina L. said...

Are you seriously suggest to threaten Wooo's livelihood because you disapprove of things she writes on her blog and twitter? Do you think her managers can't asses her professional qualifications based on their observations and a professional knowledge? They are medical professionals after all and see all sorts of mental conditions due to their work.

weilasmith said...

why couldn't you ban yourself? you must lack some self-restraint like me in relation to my 'freeing myself from the animal' experience.

carbsane said...

The people defamed on Twitter can report the tweets. Same FB or Google. Most blog hosts are wicked liberal in what they'll allow.

Galina L. said...

Nothing in her writing suggests that she doesn't care about her patients or even thinks about using anything outside the standard medical approach. She does her job. Who knows what next person writes in his/her twitter account?

carbsane said...

In the medical profession there are behaviors outside of work that matter. Period.

carbsane said...

And you base that on what? That she claims to question Drs orders? (she has been written up for that and complained about it). That she claims to care for patients while the fat lazy housewives masquerading as nurses talk about pizza all day long?


Come on. We have had a ton of experiences with the medical profession lately due to a family member illness. Some are good, some are bad, and most are just overextended with patient load.

carbsane said...

She jokes the truth.

carbsane said...

Plus the language barrier, right? Why did you respond when you didn't know what was going on? As you can see v answered me.

carbsane said...

If you care to email me I might have some information you might find useful.

carbsane said...

I suppose her repeated assertions that she hates all people don't count.


But that is irrelevant. It is her admissions of illegal behavior that are relevant wrt her job. If she's even being truthful.

John Smith said...

So she makes the same joke over and over for months on end? The reason she mentions bipolar and BPD so often is that she suffers from those disorders. She just doesn't want to seek medical treatment for them.


Is she joking when she mentions how lonely and isolated she is?

carbsane said...

Galina,

Do you remember how YOU caused the "feud" between Wooo and I? It was by commenting everywhere about the net and talking behind people's backs like nobody knew what you said here or there. Worse than junior high school.

Still at it I see.

http://www.cartercenter.org/news/documents/doc591.html



Do you see Wooo in a few of those cases? This is not about internet arguments.

Galina L. said...

You was correct about weilasmith identity, I was not. I thought it was a guy.
I was thinking for a while where was vmary.

carbsane said...

As you can tell, I'm just rather more than fed up with your muckraking about the internet. Do you get some special pleasure from pretending to be friendly on one blog and stabbing people in the back on the next blog? Seems so.

Galina L. said...

It is natural to fight back in a fight, but you told about working on being banned.

weilasmith said...

just tell me the info here. if it's useful, everyone should know. if it's only useful to me, it's probably not that useful. i'm not seeking to hurt anyone.

Galina L. said...

When she writes about hating all people in the context of being socially awkward or in an irritated mood, it doesn't mean she does literally hate people. She often writes in an exaggerated manner.

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weilasmith said...

that is right, i agree. being over-extended causes accidents/deaths no question. my mom was an icu nurse, later supervisor, for 40 plus years. i heard a lot of horror stories.


wooo is smart,much smarter than most nurses or doctors i have come across in my limited experience. and she likes to use her smarts to help people, as she has given me a lot of info about my daughter, who has PCOS. the thing i don't like about her is the way she balances/gets through her bad moods by tearing into people. i feel the more insulting she is, the better she feels. i haven't really been on the receiving end as you have, so i can't feel how you feel. however, if i were on the receiving end of her insults, it's not in my nature to want to spend time tracking down people or hinting that their job might be in danger, like you do. that's just not me. i try it escape from feelings like that.

carbsane said...

This has absolutely nothing to do with internet dramas.


It was about your delayed insulin secretion. Pretty sure that was something mentioned in comments on one of Wooo's rants and raves, but I won't comment on her blog. Prandin may be useful for your situation as you make insulin just not in a timely fashion. That's all.

weilasmith said...

i have been in the paleo/healthsphere since 2009 chipping in my 2 cents all over the place. i've encountered/read the same people over and over. in my opinion, galina is probably the nicest, most diplomatic, most even-handed commenter i have read bar none.

carbsane said...

It is not in my nature to spend time tracking down anyone either. You are sorely mistaken if you think it is. I could care less about her insults, it is her defamation and the misinformation she spreads that concerns me. But I wouldn't directly intervene with her employer unless a loved one or myself were at a facility where she were employed.

weilasmith said...

"If you care to email me I might have some information you might find useful." i only email my real life peeps.

weilasmith said...

i appreciate your advice. my mom used to take prandin. it's worthwhile info to share publicly not just in an email. i don't know if my secretion is delayed or i just don't have enough insulin period- how would i differentiate between the two? i don't think nigel would mind if we talked about this here. he might want to chime in as well.

Galina L. said...

In order to have more peaceful life on-line and to avoid drama as much as I can I choose now to stay inside even smaller segment of a web-universe than before. I never intentionally tried to shake internet piece, and I am sorry if I did.

There is a sad list of " impaired practitioners" in the story you brought up in the link. Could I see Wooo here? Could she be the depressed nurse who couldn't leave her chair? Yes , if she would fail to manage her depression (sorry, I am never sure about grammar constructions when it comes to verbs in a subjunctive mood), she would have trouble to roll out of her bed some day at November. Could I see her stealing a painkiller medication from her patient? Actually, no. She is not a junkie. I guess Wooo is familiar with such potential dangers of her profession and it motivates her to look hard for life-style options and supplements which could be helpful. I have a very mild neurological disorder, but even my small experience taught me that the reliance on pharmacology products prescribed by a healthcare practitioner doesn't guarantee a successful management of your issue. I suspect many people who ended up as "impaired professionals" failed to find an adequate help and didn't learn how to help themselves at the same time.

weilasmith said...

wooo is insulting, but she also argues with science, which is above my head anyway :( the big science gladiators will have to fight it out and i will just do my little experiments to see if anything helps me or not. i never do anything risky anyway.

carbsane said...

Have you had an OGTT? One where glucose and insulin is measured should help pinpoint the problem pretty quickly. There are different MODY but the delayed secretion can be due to having all the machinery but the beta cell glucose sensor is faulty so inappropriate early phase secretion (the GSIS).


Low carb can only exacerbate this as I do not believe Eenfeldt is diabetic, but his glucose response recently blogged on is typical of missing the GSIS which carb restriction will blunt.


I'm out for the evening.

Nigel Kinbrum said...

Please check UK time before posting comments. If UK time is between 00:00 & 06:00, please don't post comments.

Nigel Kinbrum said...

I didn't get infuriated. That's Woo's version of events. She makes shit up and people believe it.

weilasmith said...

i have the one risk allele snp for the TCF7L2 gene which supposedly points to insufficient insulin secretion. low carb has lowered my A1c, so it appears to be working.

Nigel Kinbrum said...

That's what's known as killing two birds with one stone.

weilasmith said...

ok, you weren't infuriated. you calmly called wooo worthless, etc. if you truly believe she can take your advice or leave it, you wouldn't go nuts with insults. isn't it true that you believe the insults were called for because only a real dummy wouldn't see the point of what you were saying? don't you believe you were speaking the truth and she was just being too stubborn to give in and see it too? isn't that irritating to you and so worthy of insults and wanting to be banned? if you say yes and really mean it, i will understand this whole exchange.

Galina L. said...

ok, I just saw three more comments, so I would leave my last one for today after the time-out

Thank you, v/vmary. While I am not the worst person on the internet, I am far from being perfect as well. I do not always have a courage to confront directly everybody who I disagree with. I know perfectly well how it feels to be carried away, I would not re-post some of my past comments now,so I don't try to criticize Nigel from my perfection cocoon. I know him for a while (my guess from 2010), and I hope I don't misunderstand him.

Nigel, sometimes I think the most rational thing we can do is to cool down .

weilasmith said...

ok, see you next time!!! i will help you in being restrained which will also help me. :)

Nigel Kinbrum said...

You may find this hard to believe, but I've been called far worse things years ago on someone else's forum, so when I get insulted now, I laugh at the patheticness of the insult and the fact that the person using it has just lost the argument by scraping the bottom of the barrel, on the pyramid of disagreement.

I deliberately goaded Woo to ban me. I gradually worsened the insults, as I wanted to see how far I could push Woo before she went "over the edge".

As I pointed out in a previous reply to you, her public announcement of her banning me was a typical Woo publicity stunt to garner more attention. If she hadn't written her usual crock of misrepresentations, there would have been no need for me to write the above post, putting the record straight.

I've done stuff like this before, with Richard Nikoley.

Nigel Kinbrum said...

I kept getting woken-up by my phone going bzzzzzzzz (vibrate) ching! (postman's bicycle bell)

Nigel Kinbrum said...

Hi Galina,

I'll be quick, as I'm just about to go to my local cafe for a Full English breakfast (no toast) with coffee.

You've been commenting here for a long time, and I don't recall you & I ever exchanging harsh words. I still chuckle at your funky spelling!

As I said to weilasmith, I calmly goaded Woo into banning me. I've done this before. See http://nigeepoo.blogspot.co.uk/2012/03/when-nerds-attack.html

See also http://itsthewooo.blogspot.co.uk/2012/06/my-sister-is-insane.html What sort of person writes of her own sister "-A times she will demonstrate abject recklessness. She has engaged in
prostitution, with strangers. She will meet random strangers go to their
apartment to do drugs, although she does not have a drug abuse problem
or alcoholism which makes the behavior even more bizarre."?


I wonder why Woo's defended so vigorously by her followers, which is why I invoked Godwin's Law with the picture in my above post.

Jane Plain (Woo) said...

And carbsane, if I'm ever in NY state, I'll be keeping a lookout at the all you can eat buffets for your frizzy haired 80s perm face.

Looks like we'll be stalking each other, then.

Nigel Kinbrum said...

Sometimes, Woo writes something that is spot-on, and I've praised her for it.

Unfortunately, most of Woo's posts are about her n=1 experience (not applicable to anyone else) which she then applies to everyone else. There are no studies linked, as supportive evidence.

I've concluded that she's not as smart as she thinks she is (12 years and she still hasn't correctly diagnosed her mania & anxiety), but she's so self-confident in what she writes that everyone believes it. This is actually rather dangerous to others.

Nigel Kinbrum said...

O, hai!

As your comment meets my Moderation Policy, I've approved it. I'm not going to whitelist you, for obvious reasons!

I'm curious as to why you felt the need to tell your followers, who don't give a f*ck about me, that you'd banned me, rather than just banning me & saying nothing. My conclusion was that you're an attention whore.

I haven't banned Razwell from leaving comments here, and I only banned George Henderson temporarily, after he flooded my comment section in the middle of the night RE The Reira-Crichton study. How liberal is THAT? :-D

So, no hard feelings, eh? I'm surprised by how far I had to push you, before you did ban me. I thought that you would ban me at the "mild insult" stage. You held out far longer than I expected. Congratulations!

Cheers, Nige

P.S. You're still a f*cking pillock, for not taking my advice. I'm 99% sure I'm right about you-know-what. Did you try Alan's suggestion of downing a tablespoonful of Epsom Salts, just to see what would happen? If so, what happened?

carbsane said...

Hello All,

I don't have the time nor the energy to engage in back and forths further so I'm going to post this and will try and read responses, but after that it's just not worth my time.

John mentioned Wooo's borderline personality and bipolar disorders, he also said she probably can't be held responsible for her actions. This may or may not be true, but if it IS, then it most certainly has relevancy to her fitness as a nurse. If she's able to rein it in selectively so that IRL her employers have no clue what is going on, then she has control that she could exercise online as well.

I think it is important to note that not only does Wooo get extremely out of line online, but she doesn't delete most of it. So you have apologists for her online behavior saying "oh that's just Wooo being Wooo". She doesn't really mean it, she's just joking. She's exaggerating. She cares for her patients. How do you know? You don't.

Her stories don't add up. For example the leptin trial. She is either lying about her participation or she lied to the investigators (PCOS was a specific exclusion in the study she claims she was in, it was also for amenorhea in strenuous exercisers). She publicly claimed all manner of things with her father's recent hospitalization that do not add up. When someone is admitted to the ER they don't allow the family in there with them until they are stabilized. They don't run dosages of meds by the family, not even if one is a nurse -- actually especially if one is a nurse. SHE claimed she played little girl to get back into the ER days later to bitch out the doctor who brain damaged her father. Did that happen? That's not on the internet. That's in a medical facility. Think about that *really* happening and what the ramifications would be. Wooo has admitted being disciplined for altering doctor's medication orders. This is ALL on her blog which is public.

Wooo has an AS and RN license from a community college (perhaps like this one: http://www2.middlesexcc.edu/academics/academic-departments/nursing/nursing-program.html). She has admitted she doesn't have her BSN. She mentioned problems renewing her license, something that should be a matter of formality. Her timeline and stories about jobs and responsibilities don't add up. I only mention this because people seem to believe what they want to believe about her and her supposed vast medical training and knowledge. Ever wonder where her anti-immigrant racist rants come from? Her hatred for LPNs? They are likely her competition in the workforce as most RNs these days are BSNs, and certainly in managerial positions in "real" nursing as she puts it. There are plenty of supervisory opportunities for LPNs in nursing homes and similar subacute care facilities.

So "whatever" on the holier than thou nonsense vis a vis mention of her online behavior being irrelevant to the work place. If you think your family member is safe under the care of someone who has admitted to accidentally taking patient meds on the job or who might one day get her dosage of herbal uppers and downers wrong so that she makes a mistake delivering medication to your loved one, be my guest. I've stated repeatedly that, for now, I would only ever report her were I to encounter her face to face in a facility. But she has crossed many a legal line with me online, and if I'm going to do anything about that, it will be through appropriate legal channels where I have the appropriate standing. I may or may not already know her real identity, but I will not expose her on the internet. I will deal with her in real life if SHE does something to warrant that. In actuality she has already done so numerous times but I take pity on her where I really shouldn't.



I see that this morning Wooo has posted that my comments here are defamation and legally actionable. No, Wooo, they are not. Many of yours on the other hand are.

John Smith said...

People with BPD are unable to maintain a positive relationship with ANYONE. Family members, co-workers, everyone they have social contact with they feel compelled to attack.

Nigel Kinbrum said...

Now THAT'S what I call in-depth research! :-D

weilasmith said...

"But she has crossed many a legal line with me online, and if I'm going to do anything about that, it will be through appropriate legal channels where I have the appropriate standing. I may or may not already know her real identity, but I will not expose her on the internet. I will deal with her in real life if SHE does something to warrant that. In actuality she has already done so numerous times but I take pity on her where I really shouldn't."


do you know when my mom was in the hospital, we had a 24 hour vigil over her where she was never left alone for a second but always had a child with her? so yeah, we need to do what we can to safeguard our loved ones in the hospital. you never know who you have watching over them and how overworked they are. no need to focus on wooo. everyone needs to be on guard in a life of death situation. everyone needs to develop long term, trusting relationships with doctors so that you don't have to worry about quality of care in addition to your loved one's suffering.


that about sums it up. this is the end of speculating where people live or their degree or whatever.

Nigel Kinbrum said...

I think that you're making a massive error in believing ANYTHING that Woo says.

What she writes doesn't add up. She could be making almost everything up, and you would never know, as there's no way of verifying anything.

John Smith said...

I'm really not interested in her supposed job or supposed patients, to the extent she is interesting it is because a person who is clearly suffering from extreme mental illness (bipolar and BPD is just the beginning she has a number of problems beside those) has found a small audience on the net writing about diet and health of all things. I figure her audience consists of a bunch of other people with a loose grasp of reality and various physical ailments that exist only in their imaginations, there is no shortage of crazy people on the net.


Woo has posted in excess of 1,000 photos of herself on the internet, in maybe 10 of those she is with another person (one of her sisters, not sure if it is the crazy prostitute sister or not), she has taken insanity and self-absorption to entirely new levels, way past "10" on the crazy meter. She exists in a universe that consists only of Woo.

Galina L. said...

No, I am not pretending to be friendly. Actually, I normally stay away from criticizing you on other blogs. Generally, I can criticize somebody on occasion to whom I have no unfriendly feelings if I think that person is wrong. For example, I don't believe Nigel was rational insisting that Wooo had the test he suggested and getting angry she didn't follow his advice. I criticized him for that. Does it mean I feel toward him as a not-friend? No, it does not.

weilasmith said...

"People with BPD are unable to maintain a positive relationship with ANYONE. Family members, co-workers, everyone they have social contact with they feel compelled to attack." so that confirms she doesn't have BPD as she has never said anything harsh about her parents or siblings. she describes the behavior of certain family members, but i always feel there is love and concern and upset behind it, not hatred or ridicule.

Galina L. said...

My own grandma acted all her life as my mom's worst enemy, and my mom feels accordingly, so I understand how people could be fed-up with imperfect relatives. I love both my mom and grandma, and it was a torture to be in-between. My grandma died at 95 in March, my mom told me she felt NOTHING and didn't care. Many people said about my mom "What sort of person doesn't care about own mother being dead? ", but having the chance to observe their relationship all my life, I can tell that some behaviors could kill relationship with even closest relatives.
Speaking of my defense of Wooo, reading her blog gave me enough of useful information to think about. I find her writing entertaining, and I can co-respond and relate to her experience of self-managing health conditions mostly on her own. Well before I had the necessity to deal with migraines, I was managing my different allergies since childhood so I know the difference between relying solely on doctor's advice and acting accordingly with self-observations and trying different things. What we need internet for is not a direct medical advice or any form of guidance,or guru-seeking, but rather ideas which may be taking into a consideration, and Wooo is a very creative person. For example, I use Taurine (Wooo was blogging about it) on appropriate occasions, I also found it is helpful when adjusting back to different time zone and before a very long flight. I don't agree with Wooo on everything, but I don't expect people to be right all the time.

Galina L. said...

So far I resist the modern norm to have a personal phone. I still relay on a land-line, unless I am travelling.

weilasmith said...

"I think that you're making a massive error in believing ANYTHING that Woo says."
if i am making a massive error, the end result is exactly zero/nil harm. like i said, i never experiment with anything risky. i monitor my health with yearly blood work and daily glucose monitoring. i take no medications except aspirin for the ocassional pms headache and aleve for when i pass blood clots during my period. rarely benadryl. the way i am harming myself is only by not organizing my time better ie joining an organization that could further my values. i do put a good amount of time into my family and job, so i feel good in that way. so where is the down side to believing wooo? there is none.

weilasmith said...

" I figure her audience consists of a bunch of other people with a loose grasp of reality and various physical ailments that exist only in their imaginations, there is no shortage of crazy people on the net." i am part of her audience, so i know for a fact you are a poor judge of character. but maybe i am crazy and have no insight into that fact. if this is so, take pity on me and be nice to me on the internet :)

Nigel Kinbrum said...

As administrator of this blog, I need to be able to approve new commenters. I also need to be able to read & reply to emails when I'm away from my lap-top.

My phone is switched-on and on-line 24/7, even while I'm asleep, in case of emergencies. This is why I don't want unnecessary notifications in the middle of the night. Comments on here result in email notifications.

Read my moderation policy.

Nigel Kinbrum said...

Why is everyone making excuses for her? You don't know her at all.

Nigel Kinbrum said...

Please support your assertion that I'm wrong with evidence.

I believe that asking Woo to take a 24 hr urine collection analysis would have shown beyond all doubt her excessive Mg excretion. Woo actually told me on Facebook that increasing her Mg intake made her feel better. What's the harm in taking a urine test? No needles are involved. Her excuses for not taking the test were ludicrous.

I didn't get angry because she didn't take the test. Her ludicrous excuses irritated me. I couldn't understand why she wouldn't piss in a pot. Now, I get it. Either:-
1. She's mentally stable and doesn't want to lose her "schtick" of constant "crazy" behaviour with resulting drama (when I write science posts, they don't get THIS much attention & comments :-/ ) or

2. She's mentally unstable and is afraid of change.

Either way, there's nothing that I could do, so I wanted out.

Nigel Kinbrum said...

John Smith missed out the word "mostly". I'm still bemused as to why so many people are sticking-up for someone that they don't know at all.

So Woo occasionally gives good advice? Is that why you stick-up for her? By laws of random chance, she'll occasionally get some things right. She gets a helluva lot of things wrong, though. Her rants against progesterone are garbage. The body only makes cortisol out of progesterone when it needs to make more cortisol. Woo's cortisol is probably high, due to her high anxiety, so taking progesterone is bad for her.

Do you believe that Woo gets most stuff right? You did say that a lot of her science stuff goes over your head. I, on the other hand, know science BS when I read it and I've read a lot of it on her blog.

weilasmith said...

for people with asperger's it is extremely irritiating when people don't do what the Asperger's (AS) person feels is clearly correct. it is more irritingating to the AS person than to a non AS person. i remember you were open, i think, to the possibility you have AS. would you be open to taking a private book or online test of AS? it might make it easier to deal with irritating situations and people.

Nigel Kinbrum said...

I'm glad to hear that. We originally met, as you were awaiting a response to a query on Woo's blog, but had received none. Were you awaiting a response from Woo?

The only harm in sticking-up for a complete stranger is if the complete stranger gives you bad but extremely plausible medical advice.

There are women who may need transdermal progesterone, but won't take it after reading Woo's incorrect rant against it. Woo even hinted that it was carcinogenic, but deleted that nonsense after I pointed out her faulty logic.

weilasmith said...

the science does go over my head. i am ignorant and i admit it. so i am cautious and thankfully i don't have any major medical problems. as far as getting bad advice from wooo or anyone else on the internet, the truth is we are all on our own. we need to do our own research, to the extent that our intellectual capacity and academic background allows, we need to take baby steps when trying something we absolutely feel we have a need for, and we need to find some way of monitoring whether what we are doing is helping or hurting. this advice come from a cautious person. people who are risk-takers may not be able to take this advice. there are downsides to being cautious, but when everything is said and done, we have to appreciate the good side of our innate traits, and try to manage the bad side as well as we can.

Nigel Kinbrum said...

Doing research isn't easy. PubMed abstracts can be hard to understand, or downright misleading.

This is why I blog, to pre-digest hard-to-understand things into a form that the lay public can understand. I hope I'm doing a good job.

You may be cautious, but what about other Woo followers? Are people trying any of her crazy ideas, based on her completely atypical n=1 experience?

Galina L. said...

It was irrational to expect somebody on internet would follow a given advice and trying to insist on following your recommendation and getting irritated on the top of everything. It usually doesn't work, and you, like me, are old enough to know how people function. I don't know why, but people rarely follow advises and resent when somebody presses them . I remember giving an advice to Wooo to take her pictures off internet, I am still sure it was a very reasonable suggestion, but she choose to not to follow it. Would it be reasonable of me to try to repeat it until she either buns me or just tell me GFY?

Nigel Kinbrum said...

I disagree. I don't know if you're on Facebook, but Woo expressed concern on there about dietary protein causing her mania, so I asked her some pertinent questions and concluded what I concluded. As Woo was apparently very worried about it, I thought that she'd jump at the chance to fix her problem.

I was wrong.

Nigel Kinbrum said...

That's not evidence to show that I'm wrong.

So far, nobody has come up with any evidence to refute my conclusion about the cause of Woo's mental problems.

Galina L. said...

In my case (I can't vouch for everybody) my judgement is based on reading most of her blog-posts, in many others she is a deeply caring person. She said about hating all people while being in the mood to runt . I don't agree with everything she writes.

John Smith said...

I don't think you are crazy, but I am pretty sure you're not very intelligent.

Galina L. said...

I am on a Facebook, but use it mainly to see what my son is posting.
I always thought Wooo's style of communicating and your's was a bad match of personalities. She writes in an exaggerated style, you have a tendency to take things at a face value. Sometimes people talk about their problems but not seeking an advice, probably because they have a plan of action in their heads already

Galina L. said...

BTW, I use a HRT, both bio-identical trans-dermal progesterone and estrogen for a year. I believe anyone who would decide to act solely on an internet advise is a danger for himself/herself.
I am off for today.

weilasmith said...

i can't argue the science, unfortunately, on magnesium. there is science on AS. but i guess you aren't interested, so i won't press the point if you think my point is point-less.

weilasmith said...

"I don't think you are crazy, but I am pretty sure you're not very intelligent."
why not? you make up stories in your head- you must have a whole novel about wooo floating in there somewhere!! i think you are very imaginative/creative!

weilasmith said...

"Are people trying any of her crazy ideas, based on her completely atypical n=1 experience?"


people have to take responsibility for their choices. if you see something she writes that is potentially harmful, by all means refute it on your blog. if people don't want to read your blog when you have something valuable to write that might save them a lot of suffering, they will have to pay the price, not you. you have a brain that has a need to analyze dense/complex info. so keep doing what you were born to do and leave the insults to others who don't have the brain power to get through complex information. that way you will get more readers and help more people. every time you want to insult someone, just make a joke of it to yourself. that's what i try to do anyway like with john smith calling me dumb. i just joke it off. no big deal.

Nigel Kinbrum said...

As I don't read Woo's blog any more, I'm not going to be able to refute her crazy stuff. Read my blog for accurate & mostly unbiased information. Tell others about my blog, if my blog has helped you.

I'll just carry on doing what I do best - research & explaining complex things in a way that the lay public can understand.

As I have a set of well-defined rules for people posting comments here (see http://nigeepoo.blogspot.co.uk/2011/02/comments-enabled.html , in case I've edited it from what you remember), there will be minimal drama here!

weilasmith said...

i will be dipping into your posts! i am especially interested to see how your osteoporosis manifested itself and how you cured it. i will search for that post, so no need to comment on it now. i also need to double check when i should not post so as not to wake you up. there's nothing that will wreck my memory, mood and energy faster than not getting a good night's sleep.

Galina L. said...

If you don't want to count the time in a Nigel's time zone, just google quickly "time in uk". I don't comment much now, but I have been reading most of Nigel's posts.

Nigel Kinbrum said...

I shrunk in height from 6' 1" to 5' 11". I also had a herniated disc in my lumbar spine in 2004, which may or may not have been caused by weak lumbar vertebrae.

The cure is in http://nigeepoo.blogspot.co.uk/2009/01/vitamin-k.html

I grew back to 6' 0". Unfortunately, the herniated disc damaged nerves to my right leg, and I still have some numbness on that leg & some weakness in my right quadriceps.

Galina L. said...

I think many of us who visit Wooo's blog are cheering for her like some people cheer for a favorite sport team because we are fascinated with her beating up very serious odds of combination of morbid obesity and mental unhealth on her own. She became a nurse and later managed to raise 20 000 dollars to have the skin removal surgery which was necessary because she lost 180 lbs. I think many would not be able to do it .

Nigel Kinbrum said...

Galina, you're always welcome to say "Hi!", if you don't want to "talk technical" :-)



I wondered where you'd gone.

Galina L. said...

May be it could be an interesting theme for a blog-post -"Conditions of medical professionals you wish to know about as a patient". It could be an long list. Besides clearly impaired professionals mentioned in Evelyn's link, I guess there is a downside of being treated by a person who is seriously lacking sleep, works as a nurse at night and have another job at day, having a family crisis, taking statines, has unstable blood sugar levels.
May be it is a downside of being ruled by politicians who are on statines as well.

Galina L. said...

When you had a blogging pause, commenting on your blog sort-of went out of my routine, but I was checking your posts after your returning. When my grandma died at the beginning of March, I was thinking about some things you was writing about in the connection with your mom. Some weight was lifted from my shoulders too by the death. It was very depressing to live and have in a back of my mind the thought that grandma existed in a demented state.

Nigel Kinbrum said...

Darwin Awards were created specifically for people like that.

Nigel Kinbrum said...

I've had quite a few blogging pauses over the years. Last year's pause was due to a combination of two things - a massive row with he who cannot be mentioned for legal reasons, and a woman that I was interested in who metaphorically kicked me in the nuts.

It's probably little consolation now, but people who are more than slightly demented aren't aware that there's anything wrong, as they're too demented to know that they're demented.

Unfortunately for us, we're only too aware that they're demented, but we can't mourn their passing until their body dies. Friends can find this hard to understand.

Nigel Kinbrum said...

I do take things literally, so it's for the best that I avoid any further interaction with Woo.



She can leave comments here that meet my Moderation Policy, but her comments will always be checked by me before allowing them to be published.

Nigel Kinbrum said...

See the text I added today.

Nigel Kinbrum said...

How many of the facts in your comment have been independently verified?

Nigel Kinbrum said...

I think that people give Woo the benefit of the doubt. I used to. I'm not too sure now, after reading so many misrepresentations of what I did. I know exactly what I did, and Woo's misrepresentation of it is either deliberate, or the result of a damaged mind.

Evelyn has also exposed a number of facts that don't add up.

carbsane said...

Yeah because taking statins is exactly like being high on the job.

carbsane said...

Further to my point below, unfortunately we cannot know the condition of people in certain positions, but this is why there are workplace laws governing certain things for certain occupations.


For example, pilots can do what they want off duty but they can't drink within a certain time frame before flying. To the best of my knowledge, however, they don't issue breatholyzers to pilots before flights (perhaps they should). However if I were to have seen the pilot of my flight in the lounge before boarding my plane, I would alert the flight attendant who would report it to the airline.


THIS is what I am suggesting vis a vis Wooo. If I find myself in a medical facility where she is a nurse, I will report her. This is NOT hunting her down or suggesting anyone else do so as she is now accusing me of doing to any of her rabid supporters who will listen.


Also, if I were to know her real name and report her to the licensing board, that would be perfectly legal and appropriate. If her behavior doesn't violate occupational rules, she has nothing to worry about, right? RIGHT?

Nigel Kinbrum said...

If were to write such a post, it might put people off from going to their GP when they're ill.

Maybe I'm lucky living in Yateley, UK, 'cos the GP's that I see rarely give me cause for concern. In fact, the new one that I saw the other day knew about neovascularisation causing both CHD and AMD, though she hadn't heard of Gliadorphin-7 & BCM-7. She's quite young, so what she learned to become a GP is still fresh in her mind.

carbsane said...

Give me a break.


A caring person doesn't rAnt about being inconvenienced for a few minutes in a school crossing the way she did once. A deeply caring person who is supposedly formerly obese doesn't display such utter hatred for obese people wherever she encounters them.. (Did you believe a word of her sagas about her father's hospitalization?)

carbsane said...

What do you plan to do Nora?

Galina L. said...

Well, it is unreasonable on internet to request or expect an independent verification of facts described on blog-posts. I don't remember anybody questioned medical stories of dogs Peter mentioned on his blog. What if he invented particular blood sugar levels on the post "earning the crust"?

The pictures I saw which Wooo provided out of a danger for her privacy didn't leave me in a doubt about her weight story and the need in a surgery. I don't need pictures to prove she has mental health issues to be taken care of or testimonials from her parents how she was not functional due to her

depression. I know when people are in the mood to blame, they can deny many things like Americans landing on Moon or terrorists flying into towers of the Trade Center. If you don't believe Wooo, I do. It is the explanation why I am impressed with her story. As far as I remember, you didn't see any inconsistencies before you got irritated with her.

Nigel Kinbrum said...

From the number of cases of things going wrong I've seen in the media, we need more whistle-blowers, not fewer.

Where people's lives are at stake, you can't be TOO careful.

Nigel Kinbrum said...

Unless you do in-depth cross-checking of facts, as Evelyn's done, you wouldn't know what's true and what's fabricated.

I'm amazed by how many people just accept what Woo says as if it's fact. As you've never been on the receiving end of Woo's fabrications, you can't appreciate what Evelyn & I can.

carbsane said...

This is exactly true, and it is also why people who do engage in various activities that might be frowned upon by their employers don't advertise them on the internet. This is really the main reason for Wooo's anonymity, although she hasn't done it as much recently, she used to rant against and defame her coworkers regularly.

carbsane said...

I have to laugh a bit. Maybe Nigel was just out for a good rant, joking around, exaggerating and all that. Right? It's perfectly acceptable for Wooo to do it, why not everyone else?

Galina L. said...

Thank you for your correction.
I don't think being irritated by school traffic and venting out into a rAnt crosses over other posts when she was compassionate. She never, as I remember, was being irritated with her patients or the people who could be helped.
I don't support it when people are criticized for their weight issues, I spoke several times in different places on internet about unfairness of attacking couple bloggers who couldn't loose excessive weight on the base of their weight. No one listens, and I am not a woodpecker to be relentless. Unfortunately, the degree of mutual animocity is outstanding when it comes to discussing diets and body shapes.

I do think Wooo experienced troubles she described when her father went to hospital. She thought she caused a harm by requesting a calming treatment.

carbsane said...

And yet you participate on her blog when a major part of her blogging is specifically about making fun of people's weights. Which, she lies repeatedly that I have ever done. I don't make fun of anyone for their weight. I will point out that people like Jemmy's weights are relevant to the discussion when this is their business and they are advocating for a particular diet based on their weight loss success.


You are apparently an extremely gullible person. A person capable of such rage over a minor inconvenience for the safety of children (or crotch droplings from bored fat housewives as she so compassionately described them) is not likely to be Mother Teresa in the workplace.

Galina L. said...

I got an impression that in US a threat of investigation or a litigation is considered to be a threat nevertheless regardless of circumstances because it seriously interrupts life, stressful and may require resources.

carbsane said...

First of all: Your throwing around of the word threat is defamatory. Wooo is under constant "threat" that someone in her "real life" will recognize and out her. She's pretty paranoid about that, and she knows that the chances of that happening are waaaaaaay greater than of me ever doing anything.


Second of all: I have not threatened her, no matter what she says. Stating that if I find myself in a hospital where either I or a loved one is being treated that I would report her, is also not a threat.



Thirdly: Reporting a person to licensing authorities is not stalking or harassment. There are even anonymous tip lines for such things for a reason ... so that the person doing the reporting can't be targeted by the person they are reporting. Whether or not the agencies do anything is up to them, and if they act on a legit complaint that's what they are there for!!


Wooo has zero standing for her allegations. Which is another reason to question her fitness to care for others. By her reckless behavior on the internet she endangers her own livelihood. If she ever lost her job or license based on that behavior she would have nobody else but her selfie to blame.

carbsane said...

What's your stance about Wooo's incessant claims of someone being Autie when they are not? Would that bother you, or only if it were said about YOU?

Galina L. said...

I know, every time when I bring up a fat-shaming issue I am told it was justified in his/her particular case however wrong in general.


I checked the definition of a "gullible person". There were several, "babe in the woods" was my favorite, but "trusting person" was not bad as well. I think I rather not take everything what is said at a face value (like when mothers on a street sometimes yell at their children "I will kill you if you ran away again!" I don't usually worry about the children), but I do think most people are better than they look, hardly anyone is evil , with minor exceptions which do not contradict the general picture. I guess, Wooo mostly uses words of the grade of "crouch droppings" to went frustration when she feels deeply annoyed , like being in a traffic on her way to job, not at her work environment.

Galina L. said...

I do think Wooo didn't do all she could in order not to worry about her job security.

weilasmith said...

i already said i thought wooo got stress relief from being mean to people. being mean is a therapy for her. what more do you want? but i'm still not going to obsess over her real name, where she went to college, what her degree is, where she lives- like you do. very occasionally she might be mean to me. then i am mean back til i forget about it and then i'm back on her blog! that's how i made it through life in a house with 4 siblings. get angry then forget about it.

carbsane said...

Fat shaming is an over used term. It refers to when someone's weight is brought up in an irrelevant context. Like when Wooo just blogged how she would not "want a fat f*ck teaching me". First she really has no idea what I look like or my energy levels or whatever, but my weight has no bearing on my ability to teach.


So if I call you an old menopausal fat fuck because you wear size 12's and aren't 7 feet tall, that should be OK with you because I'm frustrated with you? Come on.


Pretty much any time Wooo is frustrated the person is called fat and berated for eating pizza. You see her comment here about my frizzy 80's permed hair? (funny, I haven't had a perm since the 80's and my hair can be many things but frizzy is not one of them) Or how she'll stalk me at the all you can eat buffet (I haven't been to one except on a cruise ship or all-inclusive in at least a decade, probably since the early 90's when my mother in law us to Ponderosa after my FIL's surgery). This is OK by you apparently. She's just being empathetic.


She is full of true and enduring hatred for humanity. She tells her audience all the time about this. You just think she doesn't mean you.

John Smith said...

I think what people miss about Wooo is that she is a deeply unhappy person with no quality of life. She spends her free time typing every waking thought into Twitter. To the extent that she leaves her workplace or home, it is for a walk in the middle of the night. Something as simple as getting her hair done fills her with dread. She eats every single meal in solitude. She has not a single friend. She endures fits of crying. She can't get a good night's sleep.


Some people recognize that she needs help. Others encourage her to cling to her misery because:

1. They find it entertaining; or/and
2. It validates their own views and deficiencies


The people who recognize that no human should have to live that kind of life are cast as the "bad guys" while the people who cheer her on are cast as the "good guys."


Make no mistake, if you are hoping that Wooo continues to live her life of misery, loneliness and isolation, typing feverishly into Twitter for the rest of her life, you are a despicable person, empty of compassion and empathy, who thinks of no one but yourself.

carbsane said...

So it is OK with you if Wooo calls someone autie in a derogatory fashion. Noted.


I am not obsessing. I am merely passing along facts in evidence to those who seem to have missed them. She is the one who knows better than all the stupid doctors and her own coworkers (especially those with a penis) and supervisors because of all of her experience in nursing. Her education and experience are not what she would make them out to be.


As for her name, you've already acknowledged that you have not been on the receiving end of her harassment and slander. I have. I obtained legal advice back in 2012 and continue to follow that advice to this day. Part of that advice is as regards the actions of a certain anonymous blogger named ItstheWooo. That's all I'm going to say.


That part has nothing to do with her employment. She has a license to practice and as such is answerable to the laws regarding the issuance of said license. Accidentally taking a patient's meds at work is a pretty serious offense, no matter her other behavior wouldn't you say? Do you think such a person should be reported? Their admission, not heresay. Unless she's not who she says she is and was just making stuff up ...

carbsane said...

A glimmer of reality here Galina. She endangers her own job, not anyone else. Period.

carbsane said...

I know that most critics reading this will not get the deep truth in it. I have empathy for those who do not get it and genuinely think they are being supportive of her.


An irony here is that Wooo probably needs to fear me the least. I could have destroyed her by now if it were in my heart to be that vindictive. She has clearly crossed legal lines with me in ways that exceed the obvious (e.g. it's not the overt derogatory comments). I don't because I take pity.


Apologies to Nigel for using your blog as a sounding board. I will not post on hers and I will not post this on mine either (unless pushed further) precisely because I wouldn't want to bring any more eyes to gaze on her self destruction.

Galina L. said...

No, I don't approve that comment made by Wooo . Name calling is not a wise practice, and it often doesn't work well.

Actually, if somebody said about me that I was a fat menopausal f*ck, my first reaction would be a deep surprise, like yours about a permed hair. You don't do perms, and, honestly, I do like how I look now and I take pride in my physical appearance and a fitness level. I , most probably, would shrug my shoulders and stop communicating with the person who decided to call me names.

Nigel Kinbrum said...

You can vent on here as much as you like Evelyn, as you're not infringing my moderation policy. :-)

Nigel Kinbrum said...

It doesn't bother me, as several people (including a psychologist at the party of a friend with a slightly Autistic child, and a disability worker who works with Autistic children) have told me that my focus and determination to be good at "my thing" i.e. Diet & Nutrition is classic Aspergic behaviour. Also, being oblivious to subtle body language, is classic Aspergic behaviour.

Aspie males find it hard to form relationships with women, but I'm seeing a woman who not only recognises my Aspie qualities and appreciates them, as she's rather technophobic!

weilasmith said...

"but I'm seeing a woman who not only recognises my Aspie qualities but appreciates them, as she's rather technophobic!"

excellent! there are many upsides to being aspie or having aspie qualities. from what i have read, the biggest downside is that aspie's have trouble figuring other people's motivations and trying to guess what is going on in other people's minds. no one of us is a mind reader, but according to research, aspies have a harder time. that doesn't mean that are cruel people or psychopaths. i feel you are a sweet person, nigel. if i were you i would read more about aspie tendencies in order to maximize chances for success with relationships with the opposite sex. those relationships can be difficult for everyone, but aspie's or people with aspie tendencies have unique challenges. good luck to you!!

weilasmith said...

"So it is OK with you if Wooo calls someone autie in a derogatory fashion. Noted."


Here is my logic such that it is: It is not OK to be mean. Woo's behavior is often mean. Therefore wooo's mean behavior is not OK.


Nigel, is that logical, or did i mess up? i am not a close internet friend of itsthewooo. but i am still going to read and comment on her blog. your blog is too technical for me, therefore with my non-tech dummy brain, i don't comment on your blog (maybe i did like 3 or 4 times). i am not going to change wooo and she doesn't want to change. i will support anyone who is trying to be outed publically on the internet. so you guys keep trading insults if you want. if you really think she is dangerous, do what you have to do. you can do it privately, right? because no one believes a person when the threats aren't carried out.

Nigel Kinbrum said...

I got lucky. One of my Twitter fans turned out to be a journalist who writes articles for a men's website. The articles there were a real eye-opener, with stuff about how to become more attractive to women, avoiding the "Friend Zone" and best of all, understanding women's body language.

Anyway, my marriage proposal is in the mail! ;-)

Galina L. said...

Accept my congratulations! I wish you to be happy and content!
Both my husband and son are technical guys, so I can see pluses and minuses such type of personality carries . My first husband was not, but it had a downside too. It is better to be aware of who you are than to see your type as an ultimate flaw. People can't be perfect, but it is possible to be comfortable inside own skin.

Nigel Kinbrum said...

I have no intention of having any further interaction with Woo, unless she asks me a polite question on here. As I'm not related to her, I can't stage an intervention - only her family can do that. I have no intention of "dobbing her in" to any authorities.

I'm sorry that I can't be of any further help to you. I think we covered all the options, on Woo's blog. If you have any questions about stuff on here that's relevant but you can't understand, don't be afraid to ask. I don't bite - much! :-)

Nigel Kinbrum said...

Don't buy a new hat, just yet! It's early days. :-D

weilasmith said...

i will ask because i am not afraid of looking dumb and i know you don't bite. bye for now!!

carbsane said...

http://itsthewooo.blogspot.com/2011/11/tramadol.html

>>>>> So, what I do, is hit the tramadol. do not hit the tramadol frequently, BUT I CAN AND WILL HIT IT when my brain is clearly chemically busted.
I am very very sensitive to tramadol. The tinyest 25mg dose is like jumpstarting a car engine - after an hr I feel a bit better; after a few hrs I feel good; the next morning I'm singing.

The interesting thing about tramadol, in my body, is it appears to have a progressive mood lifting effect. I do not know how, or why, it can do this, but a single dose of tramadol can help my mood to completely change direction, for hours and days afterward.

I've taken opiates such as oxycodone and codeine and hydromorphone and they all failed to do what tramadol does. They absolutely lift my mood and make me feel very good, but I come down very quickly , and am often lower than before if I use it enough.

Tramadol... I take a speck of it, and for the next few DAYS I am better.

I woke up this morning after taking tramadol last night, in quite good spirits. I worked 16 hrs , and was quite energetic throughout... I got a bit of a sleep deprived jazz high as well (I do not ALWAYS get happy/stupid/wired upon sleep deprivation, but today I did, which is probably related to taking the tramadol yesterday). I am not tired now. I feel very very alert and focused. I actually took less caffeine than usual so it's not related to the caffeine. <<<<<



On November 19, 2011, "Jane Plain" took a controlled substance without a prescription and went to work the following day in what at the time she described as a nursing home facility. I'm currently dealing with a loved one who could be in such a facility but has chosen home care instead. At least this person's mate can be there 24/7 ... it would be close to impossible for anyone else to do this. I would like to be able to trust the nurses who care for this person. Wooo's "fans" can think what they want of me, but this nurse that wrote the above will never be near a loved one of mine. A virtual shut-in, it is far less likely that Wooo has a "source on the street" for her illegally obtained and self-administered narcotics. It is bad enough to worry over loved ones we must leave in the care of others who may be sleep deprived or overworked. It is quite another to worry that they might "accidentally" (another admission) take your loved one's medications.


This is all separate and apart from the almost non-stop barrage of obsessive harassment FROM "Jane". Seventeen posts with me in the title, countless others where she has misrepresented and defamed me.

Nigel Kinbrum said...

Just so's you know Evelyn, someone flagged your comments twice. I don't know whether your comments were temporarily hidden, but I approved them to be viewable.

Anyone flagging comments here is wasting their time. If I'm happy for a comment to be posted here, it will remain posted here, whether you like it or not. My blog, my rules. If you don't like 'em, BYE!

Here's an open message to weilasmith & Galina L:-

It's one thing having complete morons writing uninformed comments about me on Woo's blog (e.g. programmer, obese, constipated, isolated etc) based on Woo's uninformed bullshit, but having you two speculating about my motivation, personality etc behind my back is disappointing. I thought better of you two. I'd appreciate it if you'd delete stuff about me.

For the record, here's my Facebook profile, complete with pictures of me being sad, isolated & lonely - NOT. I'm having a blast, doing what I love (socialising & singing). https://www.facebook.com/nigeepoo

Galina L. said...

I said nothing negative about you, if you don't count as a negativity my opinion that the whole situation was very irrational . If it is your wish, I would never mentioned your again on Wooo's blog. I think your behavior when you was taking care of your mom demonstrated you being a compassionate person.

Galina L. said...

Sure, my comments concerning you will be deleted.

Nigel Kinbrum said...

I feel that I behaved in a completely rational manner throughout*, in terms of diagnosis, advice, & subsequent efforts to rid myself of unwanted notifications of replies to my comments on her blog, and that Woo behaved in a highly irrational manner by her excuses. See the thought experiments in logic at the end of my above post. Please never mention me again on that blog.

*But then I would, wouldn't I? :-D

Galina L. said...

I am sorry for you family member being so sick. Last time when I went to Moscow we were dealing with my mom's partner dying and having a need in a person for round-clock care.
While reading Wooo's mentioning of painkillers, my first thought was not about her helping herself illegally , but rather her having extensive surgeries related to her weight-loss. During my time spent in US, I had two surgeries on my body and several dental ones, and each time I was prescribed literally 10 times more very strong painkillers than I needed, so I just didn't fill most of prescriptions because I could used leftovers. On the ironic note, I was denied a pain treatment in an emergency room when I had a kidney stone for 5 hours till they could see the stone during an ultrasound examination. An adventure in a healthcare could be unpredictable, like a weather.

Galina L. said...

No, I wouldn't mention you on a Wooo's blog if it is what you want.

Nigel Kinbrum said...

Sorry to hear that. I enjoy reading your funky spelling!

Nigel Kinbrum said...

O.K. Thanks.

Galina L. said...

I am actually grateful to everybody who corrects me, and I don't take it as a criticism.
I do have fun where I live now, but I feel like something is missing here, when I am going back to Russia I feel way more alive there, even though what Russia is doing now to Ukraine makes me upset, and some of my old friends either turned into nationalists or became religious. While we live life keeps changing, and not all changes are for the best.

Nigel Kinbrum said...

I USED to correct people's spelling ('cos of my Aspie nature, lol), but they got annoyed, for some strange reason! I don't do it any more.

Yeah, it's rather sad about all the conflict going on in the world.

carbsane said...

Galina, she has discussed her few pain meds from surgery. Not tramadol. You really love to find any excuse for her you can.

carbsane said...

Her post still stands, so I suppose people should be flagging that. The facts are the facts. Unlike "Jane" I don't make things up about other people.

Stephan Strickland said...

Tramadol is not a narcotic nor was it a controlled substance in 2011.

Nigel Kinbrum said...

Hi Stephan, & welcome.

Please read my Moderation policy, RE comment posting times.

Cheers, Nigel

Nigel Kinbrum said...

See http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tramadol

It's an opioid with phsychoactive properties. Would you be happy for the nurse looking after YOUR loved ones to be abusing Tramadol?

Galina L. said...

Yes, I am not jumping easily to negative conclusions about people in general, when they are characterized as being demented, psychopaths, criminals or what not, especially on blog comments written as a personal retaliation.

I assume we may not know all facts about somebody's medical history.

carbsane said...

But you're perfectly comfortable jumping to the negative conclusion that anything is written in retaliation.


And running over to Tess' blog to stir the pot ... just in case she didn't see it?

carbsane said...

It also boggles the mind why v/vmary would post over at Wooo's about my offer of email. FIrstly, email is hardly that personal, secondly I had long since dispelled her first thought that it was something about RN. Why on earth would I want to confide information about that with her anyway?


My issue with Wooo on a personal level is the incessant misrepresentations, defamation and stalking from an anonymous moniker. Which, BTW, is illegal and provides me with no further need to justify hiring a private investigator. Discussing her legal liabilities is intended to get her to rethink, summon her rational side, and do the right thing. If people really cared about her, they would encourage her to do that.


But they don't ... they are encouraging her to go after me, for which she has zero standing.

carbsane said...

Narcotic, narcotic-like split hairs all you want. It was illegal to use prescription drugs without a prescription in 2011 and long before that.

Stephan Strickland said...

Thank you, Nigel. I showed up here because of interest in magnesium. You have very interesting actionable data. I have questions, but will post in another thread.

Policy noted.

Stephan Strickland said...

"Controlled substance" and "narcotic" seemed to be given heavy weight in the post. There was a correction of The Buffet and Perms time frame so, it is fitting to be exacting in other posts as well if consistency is desired, yes?

@nigel-I would not have concerns with a sub 25 mg dose of tramadol taken 12 hours or more prior noting that therapeutic dose typically starts with 50 mg administered and a half-life of 6-7 hours. Prior August 2014 Tramadol was an easily obtained prescription, even noting addiction potential among narcotic abusers.

I certainly would have concerns if I noticed withdrawal symptoms or someone high on any substance.

Nigel Kinbrum said...

Someone flagged my above comment about not wasting time flagging comments. O, RLY?

Whoever did that must be one of Woo's Dunning-Kruger-challenged followers! :-D

Nigel Kinbrum said...

Just in case you hadn't noticed, I have a label for Magnesium, http://nigeepoo.blogspot.co.uk/search/label/Magnesium
Enjoy!

Galina L. said...

What, are you telling me I shouldn't go to Tess and tell what I think and how I feel ? It is my socialization place nowadays. Would it be appropriate for me to ask you did you came to stir the pot here? Or tell you where you could comment on the internet?
No, I did not jump to conclusions that Nigel got demented, or that he lacked empathy. I don't understand why he thinks all that is a rational situation, may be he is too much in a retaliation mood. I guess after reading about the conflict even more people will think twice about getting a health advice from a web - what if they would be pressed really hard into following it?

Nigel Kinbrum said...

I've explained to you why I considered what I did to be perfectly rational. I'm not explaining it again.

I wasn't in a retaliation mood, whatever that is.

Did you read the thought experiments in logic?

I'm going out for a spot of karaoke now, so I won't be able to respond to any further comments tonight. Ciao for now!

Stephan Strickland said...

I answered: "I certainly would have concerns if I noticed withdrawal symptoms or someone high on any substance."

I am not stranger to utilizing supplements, food, drugs, meditation, and exercise to improve hedonic tone and am under care of a physician who does so. That is what my understanding was of both dosage and intent from the drug/supplement usage. I see no alarm on that front.

Point number two along with other character issues would be the place of pause for me.

Yet, I have no country in this war and other than it being quite a spectacle and I am an onlooker that is getting "something" from a situation that is destructive. I am embarrassed about that and once again i have realized I have much work to do before I point the finger at others. Dratz! I was feeling so righteous.

Maybe I am in need of magnesium.

weilasmith said...

i will go and delete those comments mentioning you by the end of the day today.

Nigel Kinbrum said...

Cheers. Your replies require relatives of the patient to recognise signs & symptoms of substance inebriation or withdrawal. They may be unable to do this, for a variety of reasons.

I don't have a problem with people using substances, as long as it doesn't put anyone else in harm's way.

I think of Woo's blog as being like our M25 motorway - a succession of smash-ups that attract waaaaay too much attention.



You probably need magnesium ;-)

Nigel Kinbrum said...

It has blown over. I'm just doing some "tidying-up". I don't like being talked about behind my back, and Woo's blog is behind my back.

So, what's this study you'd like me to evaluate?

weilasmith said...

it was about TCF7L2 and its correlation with the risky version with the T allele and colorectal cancer. the study said that taking aspirin/NSAIDS seemed to reduce the risk. it sounded wacky, but since my grandfather died from colorectal cancer (although at 94) and my father was diagnosed with stage 4 last year (but the latest CT scan has him cancer free of malignant cells that had migrated to his lungs), i am very interested in the study. let me see if i can find it again. i would be very grateful if you could make sense of it for me. and sorry if i offended you.

Nigel Kinbrum said...

I Googled TCF7L2 and immediately found http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2661580/ , which is the diabetes aspect.

See http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/?term=TCF7L2+AND+%22T+allele%22+AND+%22colorectal+cancer%22+AND+aspirin
There are 7 results. Is the study that you're thinking of in the list and if so, which one is it?

Thanks for the apology. The ketamine-like effect of Mg makes me forget bad stuff quickly, so I don't bear grudges against people. I allowed Woo to post a comment here after she banned me, as it met my moderation policy. Everyone (except for spammers & persistent offenders) is free to post comments here, if they meet my moderation policy.

weilasmith said...

i found it in my history:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2587179/

weilasmith said...

if you have time, could you choose yourself which of those studies of TCF7L2 and colorectal cancer looks most reputable (with an actionable finding) and interpret it for me?

Nigel Kinbrum said...

http://nigeepoo.blogspot.com/2008/12/vitamin-d.html

Multiple studies show reduced RR for colorectal cancer with aspirin/NSAID use.

There's something that reduces the RR for colorectal adenomatous polyps AND improves pancreatic beta cell function - Vitamin D3. I recommend that people take 50iu per kg weight per day.

My phone keeps pasting links in the wrong place!

weilasmith said...

i try to remember to take 2000 iu a day now. my levels for 2 summers in a row without any supplementation but with a lot of sun exposure were 25. i will read your link in a second, but in case it doesn't explain it, what is RR? and should i be taking a baby aspirin every day? i have some disorder, never diagnosed, but similar to some type of von willenbrand disease. when i had my tonsils out at 9 along with my other 3 siblings (all done at the same time!), i was the only one who bleed out through the night and was semi-conscious from blood loss. i had to go back into the hospital. then with the birth of my first child i started to bleed out the day after i went home from the hospital (in taiwan) and had to be given an emergency D and C. i don't bleed excessively during teeth cleamings, however. if i take fish oil, i will lose a lot of blood during my period. i say all this because aspirin might also cause more internal bleeding in me than a typical person. thanks for your help, nigel!!

Nigel Kinbrum said...

25ng/dL? That's only 62.5nmol/L. That's nowhere near enough for me. Ted Hutchinson (the chap who got me interested in Vitamin D, in 2007) said that >125nmol/L (>50ng/dL) should be aimed for.

If you have a bleeding disorder, aspirin is not advisable, as it's an anti-platelet agent, like fish oil. Is your disorder caused by poor clotting, or what? If it's poor clotting, you may have a hereditary Vitamin K recycling issue and need to take Vitamin K. Has your doctor never investigated, to find the cause of the problem? Remember that Vitamin K is involved in blood glucose regulation!

I don't recall you mentioning any of this before. Are there any other conditions, or medications that I'm unaware of? I can't advise you from a position of ignorance. If there's anything you don't want to mention publicly, email me.

RR also means Reference Range, which is the 95% Confidence Interval for blood test results, for most blood test results (not total cholesterol).

weilasmith said...

my doctors never investigate anything :( i think the bleeding issue might be hereditary as my mom was anemic from bleeding from hemorrhoids and in her 50s or 60s once had blood just randomly start gushing out of her nose. i did 23andme, so i could go to snpedia and research if i have any risk alleles for a vitamin k recycling issue. do you know any gene names associated with such an issue that i could plug into the search there? also, i noticed that when i eat a lot of kerry gold cheese, i don't have the excessive blood flow during my period.


my periods became so bad starting at about 38 that i became anemic from them (i'm 49 now) my gyn wanted to do a uterine ablation- good thing i know how to use google and started taking aleve sparingly.


the kerrygold cheese correlation was sort of a
haphazard one, so now i'm drilling into the issue. my last period i really bled a lot and had to take aleve to stop it. this cycle i am eating kerry gold when i have a craving for it, which is quite a lot. then i will note if i pass clots or not, which is my signal to take aleve.


if i have no clots, which i will know in a month, that is just more evidence that i need to supplement with K2.


i take no medications regularly. i have a non-cancerous polpys removed at 42 yo, which my doctor said was rare to have at that age. i have poor gum health and a lot of recession. my blood sugar will go into the diabetic range if i don't eat lowcarb, even from white rice. last night my BG was 100. waking up it was the same. after doing weights and bike sprints on an empty stomach, one hour later it was the same. usually exercise will lower it, however. i think my BG is high because i got a flu shot yesterday.


any strategies to address my BG problems have to focus on the fact that seem to not produce enough insulin, not that i overproduce and am IR.


thx again, nigel.

Nigel Kinbrum said...

You can probably hear the cogs whirring in my brain as a result of your above comment.
1. Kerrygold cheese is reasonably rich in Vitamin K2. I know nothing about 23andme, so can't help you with that.

2. Non-cancerous (adenomatous) polyps points to a Vitamin D deficiency. Did you wade through the hundred plus links at the end of http://nigeepoo.blogspot.co.uk/2008/12/vitamin-d.html ? Some of them refer to colorectal cancer.

3. Poor gum health may be a Vitamin C or a Coenzyme Q10 deficiency issue.

4. How can you not know that Vitamin K's involved in blood glucose regulation? Doesn't anyone read my blog posts? :-/



See http://nigeepoo.blogspot.co.uk/2009/01/vitamin-k.html and http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21136047 Streptozotocin knackers pancreatic beta cells, simulating type 1 diabetes. Your insulin secretion seems somewhat knackered, considering your high pp BG.

weilasmith said...

keep those cogs whirring!!! i have the vitamin d covered as of now, and i take fasting readings every morning. so i will be able to track if my BG numbers improve or not. i will definitely supplement with K2, but first i want to see the impact of the cheese on my period blood flow first. i think my insulin secretion is no good because of a genetic defect. i don't know how much i can ameliorate that. LADA usually just worsens with time no matter what. but i don't know for sure, so i am trying anyway. i don't lose anything by trying! even if the vitamin d and k2 supplementation ultimately don't help me secrete more insulin, they help other functions and are still worth taking. the main thing is if my bg numbers keep getting worse, i can go on metaformin first and insulin if i need it right away so i won't have a lot of damage for years of high blood sugars like others have who don't know they are prediabetic or diabetic.

Nigel Kinbrum said...

Is this the first time you've mentioned LADA? Latent AUTOIMMUNE Diabetes of Adulthood. What have I been writing about, recently? BCM-7 & Gliadorphin-7. Go read what I wrote.
See also the post that I wrote in December 2008 about Blood Glucose, Insulin & Diabetes.

weilasmith said...

i will read it, thanks!! i don't know if i have LADA, but it's possible since people with the risk allele for TCF7L2 gene (which i have according to genomic analysis) can present with either Type 2 or LADA, and my mom was completely insulin dependent at the end. plus i am not overweight and my tri's are low, pointing away from insulin resistance.

Nigel Kinbrum said...

You've made this mistake before of thinking that IR is indicated by high TG's or by being overweight. See http://drmalcolmkendrick.org/2013/09/04/beradinelli-seip-syndrome-stick-that-in-your-pipe-and-smoke-it/

It's the difficulty/inability to dispose of glucose for whatever reason that indicates IR. Having zero fat mass makes it difficult/impossible to dispose of glucose, as only the liver is available to dispose of glucose if skeletal muscle is inactive, due to sleeping or sitting.

In your case, for genetic reasons, you need more "x", "y", "z" etc (whatever they are) in your diet/lifestyle to function properly. You may also have some autoimmune attacks going on, which may make things gradually worse, but which are also stoppable (if LADA is anything like RA).

weilasmith said...

hi, nigel. is my posting time OK? you said 9am your time was ok to post, and i calculate i am posting at 9:43 am. anyway, i read the link from kendrick in which he states: "I am also only discussion type II diabetes, not type I (which is a completely different condition altogether)." if i am LADA, and i am not at all sure i am (i will need autobody tests to make the diagnosis), then his post is not relevant to me: "I am also only discussion type II diabetes, not type I (which is a completely different condition altogether)." since LADA is slow-onset form of type 1. but i will still delve into his posts since i haven't has autobody testing yet. i had a cholesterol test called 'NMR" i think, which said that i in fact was extremely sensitive. i take that to mean that of the relatively smaller amount of insulin i produce (based on my TCF7L2 risk allele in which people with it have problems producing enough insulin and many of them are categorized as having LADA, but not all), my body is very sensitive to it and uses it well. the flaw in this theory, though, is that people who really use insulin well have the insulin push nutrients where they are needed, like muscle mass, and i gain weight on my abdomen and am losing some muscle mass. i may have numerous misunderstandings in my post here, but that is why i am posting. to get your corrections. why would my NMR analysis say that i am very insulin sensitive? are you familiar with that test?

Nigel Kinbrum said...

Have I complained about your posting time? I don't think so.

I posted a link to Kendrick's blog to show that you don't have to be overweight to have glucose disposal problems.

I don't recall you mentioning NMR before. I thought that NMR was a method of measuring LDL particle size.

Anyway, I've given you all the information that I can, so there's nothing more that I can do to help you.

Cheers, Nige

weilasmith said...

At this point I have to educate myself more by reading the posts you mentioned and other things. I'll be back after doing more extensive reading. Thanks, again. :)